All 3 of these company's and probably more are owned by uuvtecllc a Ukrainian registerd scam company.A one Vasily Prokopchuk says he is the owner of all of these places.The sites are infested with pro-daters and hookers how do I know this I am a victim of a long and drawn out 19 month relationship with a girl using their services.There were many men writing to her and also sending money for english lessons she did not need and translations.She also received many gifts and when a man travels to Kiev and uses their accomidations she gets a cut.All of there flats are owned by a mishka1911 I do not know his real name but the Kiev head manager is one Yaroslav Kruts he picks up all of the western union transfers and picks up the victims from the Borispol airport.I have several letters from this asshole saying he wanted to help me retrieve my money but in the long run he was jerking me around.One letter meant for one of his cronies was sent to me by mistake and it translated into look what this bastard is singing now if we give him $200 and tell him this is all we could get maybe he will shut up.He is solely responsible for his employees actions which he claims he is not he knows exactly what is going on it fattens up his wallet.I have seen many complaints about them but unfortunately most men do not want to do anything about them every victim needs to do something it might just help out the next person inline.

Well it is just as I thought this Mishka1911 is none other than Yaroslav Kruts the head manager of the Kiev office and I was told in a pissing contest last year on another forum to leave this mishka1911 alone all he does is own the flats we rent imagine that a lie coming from Ukraine and from such honest and nice people.

Thanks for your information. It is crucial when people wish to visit the Ukraine or Russia that it is vital they do their homework first. Never send money. If you need to set up accommodation I think that you should do it independently where possible. That is my personal opinion.

Not a problem Bomber I suggest going through a reputable dating site for lodging and if you do your homework you will not be ripped off.These snakes in the grass are a typical lying scam FSU agency I never have heard a good thing said about them in any forum I also know of many men who have been deceived by them but will not post out of fear of hurting the supposed former girlfriends well this only helps this buttwad more if morte men posted it would help my cause to shut this thief down for good.

I've been exchanging letters with a lady from Nikolaev, Ukraine. She uses the Red Rose Club to translate letters. Is this the same Red Rose Club that is a scam run agency????? Will she start asking for money one day? How do they scam a person?
Thanks

If you are corresponding with a lady from this place there is a 100% chance she will be a pro-dater only interested in your money are you paying for her Translations or English lessons if you are then it is all a scam and there it certainy she speaks English well enough already this place and the others are 100% scam so get out while you still have your heart and money.

BEC 101,google there names also if you have not already make sure you google her name you will not like what you read about this place the owner Vasiliy Prokopchuk is an asshole his manager in Kiev Yaroslav Kruts owns the flats they rent out and he also is the one who picks up the transfers so he knows who is writing who.

Hey bec,
How they scam you is have you pay for non needed English lessons and translations they have been known to write in the girls place also.Most of the letters are from templates and all they do is insert the name into it they will answer your questions most of the time.But how they scam you is the pro-dater makes money off of everything you buy like gifts and the translations English lessons and your visit then after she milks you they tell you either you are not her type or they find another excuse in my case she had one of her friends write in my name a comment about her and I do not know how but she phished my account I will not mention the site but he is a spineless jellyfish and would not answer my questions about how this could happen.I hope you find out what you need I sure do not want to hear another bad story about this place I am in the process of trying to shut this butthead down and prosecute all involved if I can get some help.

So far she seems genuine. Her letters are written as if she does read mine and answers to my question are through out hers. But I know a scammer can tell you anything. Married the nastiest green card girl ever. I do worry about its all BS to get me to buy into the service. Read negative reviews on the Red Rose Club but nothing when I put her name in. Thanks, I need all the advice I can get. Good luck with your case. All the scammers need to be shut down and prosecuted. I am going to have my own legal thing happen when the new prosecutor takes office and I press felony extortion- blackmail charges against my X Ukrainian wife.

I too am corresponding with someone via Red Rose Club. We've been writing for 6 months+ and she also seems genuine. I met her on a normal dating site (one with no connection with Russia/Ukraine at all.) Her letters have none of the classic signs of being scams - they are long and detailed, they include answers to all my questions, they really seem like an extended conversation by letter. The woman herself seems very level-headed (no gush), she's never asked for money, and the photos she's sent me are fairly ordinary, and include her apparently with other members of her family. Google searches for her name and email address get no results.

I have been paying for translations and English lessons, however, and I am thinking of going to Nikolaev to meet her. She's clearly not one of the usual scammers, but I now find myself wondering if she's a "pro dater" and is getting a cut from the money I've paid for translations and lessons. I find it really difficult to believe that she is, but how the hell do I find out?

John - clearly you've had a bad experience with RRC (your reference to 19 months of communication is worrying!), and it looks like the guy who runs the company may be a bit shady, but does that mean everyone on their books is a scammer? And bec101, you say you've read negative reviews of RRC - please tell me where, I'd like to look at them too. The only ones I've found are in this thread.

All help/advice/suggestions welcome.

Berezan,
I would say with utmost honesty that she will be a pro-dater the owner of this site is not a little bit shady he is an outright crook I have many letters from him telling me he wants to resolve the problem without me filing charges I will share them with you if you like.I bet you she already speaks good enough English why dont you google them also Go-To-Ukraine and Ukraine-club.com he opended up the Red-Rose-Club after all of the heat I have been giving him he claims it is not his business but the IP'S show he is a lying piece of S_HIT.I wish you the best of luck and please get in contact with me using the PM feature I will tell you much more,
John.

It is unbelievable ....there's still people sending money for translations or tickets...of course she is a scam..

And you dont need to go there..just read other threads in this forum and you r going to see what happen..

Yes it is a bigtime scam more than likely the girl/guy you are writing to speaks better English than you do this place is a bigtime scam he keeps opening up new sites.

Greetings, surprised. Sounds interesting. I've replied to you via the other thread and in PM. Yes, let's share what info we have about these people.

berezan