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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:25 pm    Post subject: Irina's mail Reply with quote

I placed my profile on Elena's models some time ago, and I received 2 replies, but then the third one arrived, the one which I was interested to reply to. You can't read messages they send, unless you "upgrade" to Gold or Platinum membership (+$100). However, you can correspond with one lady for $10. So I paid the ten bucks, read her message and replied. No response, and I think I'm waiting in vain.

To put this into context, the first two letters (that I didn't respond to) seemed legitimate (even though I wasn't able to read the letters - since I didn't want to upgrade). I could tell from reading the profile that i wasn't interested. However, each profile, by itself, gave me enough info that I could say to myself, this was probably a real letter (and that I wouldn't be interested).

Anyway, after my romantic fervor cooled down a bit, I realized the letter writer was probably doing a "mass-mailing." Here's the whole letter:

"Hi! How are you? It's nice to see your profile. I'm interested to
learn more about you. Hope you will write me back. Sincerely, Irina"

So now it's obvious that "Irina" didn't write to me personally. And that her "interest" in me is about as much as my interest in what brand of beer I buy tonight.

Actually I can't even say that with 100% conviction - I have had messages from women on love.ru that are just as short - and I know they are real people, and that they are waiting for the other person to take the first step - to show them that I am interested, before they commit to even a writing relationship. It's kinda like, "I don't want to commit a lot of time and emotional effort into writing a long heartfelt intro letter, since there is the distinct possibility that the other person will simply ignore me. I will just send out a feeler and see what happens..."

All in all, though, such a short letter, I think does show some kind of lack of depth...

What this has to do with Elena's models, I'm not sure. I have heard of a lot of scammers doing "mass-mailings" through legitimate sites, posting a lot of letters before they caught - if they are fast and knowledgeable they can post hundreds of the same letters.

My other experience with Elena's models occurred when I went to Yoshkar-Ola ("scam city" my friend Mikhail says Rolling Eyes ) The woman I had corresponded with, we met, but it was not a great match. The agency was unhelpful, once they realized I was not a cash cow for them. I had already paid for hotel room for 7 days, so I went to the internet cafe and searched through Elena's Models for ladies from Yoshkar-Ola, and narrowed it down to one I thought might work out - I paid the $10 for the phone number, and the lady spoke English, and it's a long story, but eventually we met, and the rest of the story, I'm still not sure of, but I'm getting off topic...

If you want to be close to 100% sure that the site you are using is legit, it should be a site that is "local" - that is physically located in one city -an actual office that you can visit, and that they use to interview and "vet" the matrimonial-minded. A local office is better able to sift through the scammers and verify the "pros." Elena's Models is not based here, so they really have fewer tools to detect scammers - they can't call someone up and ask them to come to the office.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:24 am    Post subject: Elena's Models Reply with quote

I came across the Elena's Models website some time back and was impressed with Elena's advice on how to find a Russian wife. She self-published a book on the subject which I bought and it gives some very practical advice on how to not get scammed and how to be realistic in the kind of women to seek marriage from. I understand she screens her female clients as well, although no screening system can be proven to work all of the time. My goal is to meet and marry a woman from the former Soviet Union and Elena's websight has been one of the more helpful I've found for that. Thanks,

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 golddiggers in 3 months: I reported them each time to Elena, they didn't take any action about it! The profiles are still available!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just finished with a Golddigger named NG. She is digging an [b]american now. She is a professional dater also.
I found her through Alina's agency and they eventually kicked her off of it.
I revoke my original post
If Elena say she is great than she is great. I accept no liability to what she does to KR, that is the responsibility of Elena and KR/b]


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too late, she is already suckering an American and he is love.
I revoke my original post
If Elena say she is great than she is great. I accept no liability to what she does to KR, that is the responsibility of Elena and KR. I wish I was an American also. USA USA USA LOL


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Too late, she is already suckering an American and he is love.


It is never too late. Please post the information, maybe if this American (and any others) find this site, they will inderstand the truth.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have spoken to him on the phone and told him the whole story and such. Even offered to show him the Western Union bills, it is too late
I revoke my original post
If Elena say she is great than she is great. I accept no liability to what she does to KR, that is the responsibility of Elena Garrett and KR. I wish I was an American also. USA USA USA LOL


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It may be too late for that one individual, but these scammer usually work on more than one individual at a time. Please think of the other people that you can possible warn by posting all the information that you can.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this should be a separate post.


From advice from Elena, she is blacklisted almost every possible
I had her profile removed from Fiance.com, Sweethearts.ru and behappy2day.ru

She said to me that she upset that she can no longer find a good man and so she has to sucker this one man left.

It is common thing in which a girl parties her butt off by scamming and later on will take a husband from another country. It usually happens when the beauty starts to fade and the ability to attract another victim is less. I have seen this in YO lots. Many of them then dump their husband as soon as they can find another.

Thank god that I befriend many of her friends who told me about her activities and who she was with and so.
It is unfortunate that this new man does not have this advantage.

I revoke my original post
If Elena say she is great than she is great. I accept no liability to what she does to KR, that is the responsibility of Elena and KR. I wish I was an American also. USA USA USA LOL


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that we are going off topic -

EM is possibly the best of a bad bunch - The best was to use these services is as an introduction service.

You will have to take the plunge and meet the lady in person, therefore will have to read up on the lady - take advice from specialist forums.

I you do not research you lady then you could have a 'Heather Mills McCartney' a proper gold digger - not a one legged madwoman.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:48 am    Post subject: Someone is playing tricks on Elenena's Models Reply with quote

sxrun wrote:
Has anyone had any experience with Elena's Models?


Yes, and a bad one:

For the last time I logged on their website 4 days ago. Yesterday I noticed that my profile displayed "Active within 24 hours". Since I found it rather curious, I made another check this morning before going to work, and found "Active within 48 hours". Once I came back from work I made another check and found "Active within 24 hours" again Shocked while I have done absolutely nothing on their website!

For me it is obvious then that someone is playing tricks there putting false information on the profile.

This very bad because someone innocent might be suspected.

Suppose you have an evening phone conversation with a lady you met on EM. You know that the lady has no computer at home. She says she is at home and is going to sleep. After the conversation you check her profile and you see "Online NOW" displayed on her profile. You check one hour later and you still see the same information. (this message is supposed to be displayed during 1 hour after the user logs out) So you start to think that the lady was doing something on the EM website while talking to you over the phone. And you wonder if she is honest with you. But the reality is that the lady is totally innocent, only someone else is putting false information about her on her profile.

I think it is very bad putting suspition on innocent people !

So be carefull with EM !!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You read that Manual 'How to Marry a Russian Woman Like Me', it's sooo out of date.

If inclined you could do an updated version -

Hold on..... is that what we are doing here ......... ahh I am starting to understand now!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Wigura7

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Yesterday I noticed that my profile displayed "Active within 24 hours". Since I found it rather curious, I made another check this morning before going to work, and found "Active within 48 hours". Once I came back from work I made another check and found "Active within 24 hours" again Shocked while I have done absolutely nothing on their website!


Unless you are stating that you checked the dating site without logging in, just logging in makes you active on the website.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MIT61 wrote:
Unless you are stating that you checked the dating site without logging in


Yes, I am stating that I check the website WITOUT LOGGIN IN. Anyway, if I checked it as a logged user I would see "Online NOW", and never "Active within 24 hours" or "Active within 48 hours".

BTW: The information on my profile still keeps swaping between "Active within 24 hours" (seen yesterday) and "Active within 48 hours" (seen today). The change takes place somewhere during the night (GMT+1).
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anyway, if I checked it as a logged user I would see "Online NOW",


I have not always seen that on some dating sites, depending on the sites refresh (And I don't know what EM refresh is) it can take up to an hour to show that someone is on-line.

Since you are checking without logging on, this is one of the tricks dating sites use to show active membership where it isn't really true.

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